Wednesday, September 1, 2010

trying ecstasy for the first time?

Question 1
trying ecstasy for the first time?...  i am doing it with a friend and staying at her house to avoid my parents noticing. how long should i stay at her house? what can i expect to feel like??
an someone give me an answer that actually helps me? kthnxbye :)

Answers
1)   stop doing it, you idiot
your throwing your life away as we speak. - Jennifer Callaghan

2)   You can expect to feel like a real moron when you get addicted, ruin your life, become half brain dead, and die from an OD. Do yourself a favor and look up some of the long term symptoms before you try it and destroy your life. kthxbye - Smellyhobo

3)   You can expect to ruin your life! My word.... You know, everything on the internet gets published, and whether or not you delete it, it can be found. Particularly by colleges, for your information.

But what the heck is the point?! You have better things to do. Much better things. - A_L

4)   I'm not trying to be a little anti druggie bitch but i really do have to tell you to stay away from extacy.
the high you will get from it will not be worth it in the next few days that follow the high. it increases the level of dopamine in your brain which makes you happy.. and your brain will stop putting out this chemical for a few days because the amount that you will get from extacy will be tremendous. so youll feel super depressed for the follow day or 2 after using extacy. seriously dont hang out with that friend. theres nothing wrong with smoking a joint every now and then with friends but doing x is really bad and it fucks up your brain over time. theres funner things to do with friends than addicting hard drugs.. so please call up another friend and go hang with them and do something else fun and call your friend who does x and say ive changed my mind and dont want to do it and dont let them convince you other wise..


http://www.oxyabusekills.com/Ecstasy.html
http://www.thegooddrugsguide.com/ecstasy/dangers.htm - Gs G

5)   Next time get MDMA if you can, also known as Molly.
You should be there for the night, and you should expect to feel just real fucking good. Drink lots (but not a deadly amount) of water. Listen to music. - Avery Danger

6)   Make plans to stay overnight just in case you don't feel the same the next morning; make sure to drink enough water so you won't get dehydrated. Some people get depressed afterwards so you might consider taking 5HTP supplements if this is something you plan to do every once in a while. - ilovecats

7)   Don't do that. - Emma Davis

8)   Rolling for the first time is a great experience. Make sure u have good music, lots of orange juice (water to keep u from overheating, and vitamin C to intensify the E), gum (keeps u from grinding your teeth), some glow sticks, and some bud. Not too much bad can happen your first time, just keep an eye on your body temperature (if u start to feel hot drink some OJ or water), take breaks from dancing, and have a GREAT time.

Its not a visual trip like acid or shrooms, just intensifies your senses, gives u energy, makes music sound amazing, and puts you in the best mood of your life. U will feel the effects in about an hour (give or take 20 minutes depending on dosage). Blew 2 triplestacks my first time and felt great, would recommend chewing them though, doesnt intensify the trip as much as snorting, but it will last longer.

Would recommend staying at her house all night though driving under the influence of anything is a bad idea. Wouldnt worry about being around your parents though, u can control yourself very well while on E (Its easier to act normal while your rolling than while your high or drunk)

Also note that different pills contain different things, would go to pillreports.com and check for the color and imprint of the pills you are going to take before you take them. There aren't too many harmful ones just beware of pipes, and stay away from the meth infused MDMA.

If u are unsure about your pills would take a reagent test, most will be MDMA/amphetamine or coke, LSD, MDA, or caffeine. In all ecstacy is a relatively safe drug taken in moderation.

Last peice of advice is to go to sleep when you feel like going to sleep, and remember to relax dont be nervous after u take it (even if u do start to freak out, u will feel better once u start rolling :]

Hope this helps typed as much info as i could think of - Paraplegic Swimmer

9)   Honest, real answer:

Ok I'm just gonna first off that many people know nothing about mdma. The people saying it's bad and "you're gonna die!!" are idiots. I'm not saying to take it, or not to, I'll just give you facts. I will also so that from experience... don't go crazy with this drug (wanting to use it every weekend) you will regret it! Mdma.. can be one of the most special times of your life. You will feel super close to your friend, and touch is sooo magnified and so are colors and everything... it is beautiful. Like in the moment, you will just be thinking... I am so happy to be alive, and you will just love.. with like the deepest love you can imagine, it's amazing. Then again some people are affected differently by it so, I can't say that for sure. Oh and just stay at her house, and you'll be fine the next day. You'll most likely feel tired though.

Anyways.. before you dose, make sure it's a legit pill (check out pillreports.com)
For the time that you're "rollin", you should know a few things. Make sure to not take anymore than only ONE. Make sure to not dance TOO much. Make sure to drink enough water but don't drink too much. A glass every hour or so should be enough. Make sure to cool down too!
It's much easier for your body to keep itself cool if the air temperature is low. In one experiment, rats placed in a cool room suffered no neurotoxicity from a dose of MDMA that extensively damaged the brains of rats in a warm room. If you're going to be out dancing, pick a club that's cool and has good air flow, and regularly take short breaks to cool off and assess how you're doing.

More info.. and for the day after.
Mdma floods your brain with all the serotonin you make naturally, it actually can be as high as 3000 times the normal amount! With that in mind, when you used it all up, there is very little left, leaving you sad, emotional, angry, and generally lack of motivation and energy. Serotonin takes weeks to get back to normal (Not saying that you will feel like crap for weeks after though).
It can take anywhere from two weeks to more than a month to be fully restored...

You should try getting your serotonin levels back to normal.. Great things to get back to normal is, get plenty of rest, eat lots of dairy. Dairy/meats contains tryptophan which is converted into 5htp then converted into serotonin (dairy/protein >tryptophan>5htp>serotonin)
You can actually buy 5htp at wal mart which skips part of the process of how serotonin is produced. Eat healthy foods, veggies fruits, go outside get some vitamin D ( the sun is a fantastic source ) and don't forget to exercise!

Vitamin c, and vitamin e and any antioxidant helps with the neurotoxicity of mdma. Because MDMA neurotoxicity ultimately happens through oxidation, antioxidants may be able to provide some additional safety margin. An appropriate dose may be 2-4 capsules or tablets of each around the same time that you dose. In one mouse experiment, mice fed a severely vitamin E deficient diet suffered severe neurotoxicity from a dose of MDMA that didn't noticeably harm mice on a normal (plenty of vitamin E) diet.

And if you're wondering what exactly is neurtoxicity, and want to know more about some of the myths out there about mdma like it "putting holes in your brain" or more facts this site has good information: http://dancesafe.org/drug-information/ecstasy-and-neurotoxicity

Anymore questions, about anything at all, feel free to email me...
Good luck in life. - euphoric(k)

10)   DONT DO IT YOU WILL DIE

want proof??? well heres a picture of what happens to you if you use it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVNYsa0XASE

do it if you want to wreck your life, - Matt

11)   you'd be better off posting this on a harm reduction forum. like bluelight or something. erowid.org also has good infomation - aristocat


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Question 2
What are the dangers of ecstasy?...  Ecstasy hallucinations?
I rolled a few days ago. I took a full yellow pickachu, a half of a blue dolphin, and 3/4 of a purple trident. I'm not a newbie at rolls only do them on occasion tho. This time was different. I hallucinated real hard. Saw crazy designs and these weird spinning wheels would come out of nowhere and just move around me. I saw hands coming out of my pillow and I kept seeing mice. I saw a lot of other **** but its hard to explain. I wasn't really scared tho cuz i was so awake and annoyed. Is it normal to see stuff when your rolling?

What are some other dangers of ecstasy and how much would you need to take to die?
Yes but not to much water or you can overdose.

Answers
1)   Remember kids! Drink water! - Crouton II

2)   My guess is you got ecstasy that was laced with 2-cb which is a hallucinogen.
http://www.ecstasydata.org/
50% of ecstasy these days contains no MDMA... so it's not actually ecstasy. Most likely it was 2-cb. My guess is that at about 300 mg's you'll probably die. The dangers of ecstasy is that most of it isn't really ecstasy. Only 25% is only MDMA. So one out of every four different pills is pure. Any number of things can go wrong. It all varies within what chemicals are used.
The information I got was from DEA confiscated Ecstasy so there probably not super corrected but their pretty damn close. - Legless

3)   Everybody's body reacts to chemicals differently. With street drugs, you don't know which chemicals it may contain and your body could have a negative reaction to it. Your throat could swell up and close, you could have a seizure, you could just die for no reason. Its not necessarily how much you take, its what chemicals are in it and how your body reacts to it. Its a roll of the dice whether or not you will die everytime you pop a pill.

Two of my friends took the same pill and one almost died in the other's front yard. - [ ★ . A I R ]

4)   Legless is right, there's a lost of 2c-b floating around being passed as ecstasy. I believe 2c-b is a little more hallucinate-y than ecstasy. This one time, my friend was on 2c-b, and he's like writing some weird s//hit on his arm like insane-intensely, and then he's like, "dude, dude, look at this."
And I was like, "Uh, yeah, what?" And he shows me his arm, and it just says 'ONE CAT' on it in Sharpie. lulz, And I'm like, "dude....it just says 'one cat'..." And he looks all confused, and he's like, "...you're right." *stares at it for like twenty minutes*
Yeah that was my boring story, yours was better.
Always know where your drugs comes from. Seriously man, don't buy that s//hit off the streets from some random creep with a wooden leg in an overcoat. - Davie Marks

5)   if the yellow pikachu is from the south west area it probably contained ketamine. Mighta made you trip. - Mr. Artless

6)   You are buying a product form someone you don't know from a bar of Soap.
You don't know how it was made, the purity of it or even if it is 'what it says on the tin'.

You could be purchasing anything. it could be harmless.
But then again it could not.... - Lightning

7)   You don't really have to do too much the first time, but it stays with you mentally and physically. If you only knew what you saw when you hallucinated you'd say, 'Well, that wasn't even seeing things.' And yes you can overdose on too much water, but that's a whole bunch of water. - gregg

8)   it was probably laced.. seriously drug dealers could give a shit about you they just want your money and will do anything they want to get you to buy from them again,, even if that includes putting very harmful toxins into your drugs. they want you to like there drug so you'll buy from them again. Unless you personally know your dealers very well or are watching them make the drugs.. they will sooner or later add shit to your drugs. Even drugs like weed.. I once bought from a dude who I later fond out sprayed things like raid.. and other bug and pest killers and even cleaning products all over the plant so it would give people a better high..Seriously either know your dealer or only buy rx drugs that cant be laced like xanax or oxcontin prozak etc.. ecstacy is a bad bad drug seriously I think socially every now and then its not that bad to smoke a joint or maybe pop a few vicodin but hard drugs like extasy are horrible for your health and mess with your brain chemicals.. pretty much raise the levels of dopamine in your brain to the point where unless your taking the drug your body wont produce this chemical in your brain.. this is bad because it is the chemical in your brain that makes you happy and with out it your will be depressed. stop taking extasy theres plenty of other ways to have fun that dont even involve drugs and if you do decide to do drugs never do them more than once every 2 weeks or they can become a habit and you can get addicted yada yada yada you know what i mean,,

please take a look at these websites too.

http://www.thegooddrugsguide.com/ecstasy/dangers.htm
http://www.oxyabusekills.com/Ecstasy.html
http://www.suite101.com/content/the-effects-and-dangers-of-ecstasy-abuse-a203501 - Gs G

9)   Here's one danger- Fun, hey?

Ecstasy destroys nigral cells in the brain. The way it works is to subdue the dopamine receptor cells in the brain. You can look forward to getting Parkinson's disease in the near future if you are using that much of this drug.

You are born with 400,000 nigral cells and that is all you will ever get. When you lose 240,000 of them, you get Parkinson's disease. There is NO cure because it is impossible to create nigral cells.

Nigral cells are pigmented cells that are white when you are born and become gray by the age of 18. That is the gray matter in your brain. These cells produce dopamine that is part of the brain system in your body that produces movement. There are about 5 known receptor cells that receive the dopamine from the nigral cells and these receptor cells are attached to your body movements.

When you take ecstasy, it deadens those receptor sites and the nigral cells start producing more and more dopamine to make the movements in your body happen. This over production of dopamine exhausts these cells. The free radicals, especially the OH- ion from normal metabolic functions of the cells, kills the nigral cells as well. Ecstasy, like ALL drugs create more free radicals and the combination of these two things destroy the cells.

If you don't take any drugs and live a good life, you still lose about 2,400 nigral cells each year on a normal basis. After you have lost 240,000 of them, you get parkinson's. So do the math; at 100 years old you will have lost 240,000 of them. This is why old people get shaky as they age.

No, Ecstasy doesn't burn holes in the brain, but you have now reduced your years of not shaking as you age. You can expect to get Parkinson's much earlier than the average person. Sorry to tell you all this, but you need to know.

good luck to you
Source(s):
many years of nutritional studies - B.A. biology & chemistry
advanced nutritional research - Hugh Jorgan, at your Service...


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Question 3
After a 114 years the MD vs DC still festers, why?...  For the past 114 years the same stale arguments against chiropractors surface day in and day out with the festering attitudes between both MD and DC persist. Chiropractic in spite of everything thrown at it over the past century remains the largest non-medical health care profession and seems to be growing as they are now present in over 150 countries. In every country but the US the medical professionals seem to accept their existence with little or no bother. While in the USA the antiquated views and arguments persist. The arguments used today are identical to the ones used in 1910, though there is more cursing and venom.
Tink

Ok, the largest non-medical doctorate level health care system.

Answers
1)   Because trolls like you refuse to let it go and just practice whatever you want instead of arguing about it constantly. - Sasparilla

2)   Look. Either provide evidence that chiropractic is anything more than a glorified back massage or, STFU.

You are being childish. Science and medicine does not give credence to this type of BS. It gives credence to things that actually work. It might help mild lower back pain, but it's never been shown to alter the course of any disease. - Rhianna

3)   In the UK, 25% of ALL chiropractors are currently being investigated for outrageous, unsubstantiated claims. A tad more than a 'little bother' I'm sure you'll be dismayed to admit.

Face it, you're a quack. The only other person who doesn't think this is you.

Time for another conversation with yourself I reckon.... - dave

4)   Well how about 'The same arguments stand'?

And I'm pretty sure they used bigger words back then - you know 'circumambulate' instead of 'walk around', big words were all the rage in 1910.

(Psst. There are far more massage therapists in the US*, and they would be considered a non-medical heath care profession) - Tink

5)   If you really think that MDs sit around and worry about chiropractors, then you are suffering delusions of grandeur. MDs treat people with real disorders and disease and couldn't care less about DCs and their narrow scope of practice. Let's face it,nobody really goes to a chiro with anything really serious now do they. And as for the profession growing, then why do they have the biggest rate of student loan default and the highest rate of business failure.Also many insurance carriers recently are dropping chiropractic from their coverage due to cost vs benefit. I happen to know a lot of chiropractors,and sad to say they are not the brightest bunch of professionals. Maybe it is the low standards that it takes to get into chiropractic "college". None of them could make it into a PT program at a real university. - massage therapist

6)   Outstanding pwnage by Rhianna, dave, Tink, and massage therapist. Give it up. Chiros may be effective for back pain but there is no evidence that they can cure anything other than that.

Outstanding.

Outstanding! - angrydoc


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Question 4
does anyone know any social and physical effects you get if you smoke MARIJUANA?...  i need to know for a test and i have no idea were to find it

Answers
1)   um...
you could die...
you could.... die slowly....
and you can get lung cancer...
and then die. - Dylan Greenwood

2)   From a rehab point of view...
http://www.thecyn.com/marijuana-addiction/social-effects-marijuana.html

on You Tube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3PT7S-V7s4

Wiki on the effects of cannabis
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effects_of_cannabis

And last but not least the vaults of Erowid
http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/cannabis_effects.shtml

The rest of your homework is up to you. - Part Time Cynic

3)   Physical effects: Lowered lung capacity, cancer. sensory deprivation, memory loss, laziness, and syzophernia (probably not spelled correctly but spell checker won't correct).
Social effects: Loss of ability to interact with individuals, social stigma. - jdh

4)   Social effects:

Laughter, friendliness and munchies

Physical effects:

Red eyes and loss of some coordination - Nazphu

5)   Marijuana doesn't cause cancer. Anyone who tells you it does isn't reading the scientific research being conducted on marijuana.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/25/AR2006052501729.html
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=large-study-finds-no-link
http://www.news-medical.net/news/2006/05/24/18122.aspx

It makes you feel happy, it makes you not care about the little things that might be bugging you but it doesn't make you disregard the important things in your life, it makes you think about things and question things. If you smoke too much it'll make you feel sleepy.

It's a great social lubricant among those who smoke it but it'll make you feel self-conscious and can make conversations difficult when you're around people who don't smoke. - Jillian Galloway


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Question 5
whats the best laxative to relieve constipation?...  I really don't want to use one but I've done everything I can to relieve it. I'm taking a vitamin pill specifically for acne problem skin and since I started taking it I've become really constipated, I drink a tonne of water, excercise, eat fiber rich food, I've even started adding a fiber supplement to me water and nothing really helps, I have to sit and strain on the can every day. the only change after that is that I've become really gassy. what one would be the best? I'm thinking of going of the acne pill for a few just to help, but it really works so I want to continue with it

Answers
1)   Simple: Plums and dates will run right through you. - jdh

2)   Take fish oil pills on a regular basis. They help plus they raise your good cholesterol levels at the same time. Increase the dosage until you get the desired results. It would be very difficult to take too much fish oil. This works for me quite well and is a very healthy alternative to artificial medicines that could have side affects. - No Name

3)   Try dulcolax. It's pretty mild. Then after you use dulcolax and have a bowel movement, start taking a stool softner (colace or miralax) to help prevent future constipation. - JEREMY S

4)   My colon hydro-therapist recommended CleanseMORE. It is a natural laxative in tablet form. But I forgot to buy it when I was in town so I can't say if it works or not.

You can see the reviews below, it was highly rated. - Andy

5)   Right now you want something non chemical that will work fast right. Epsom salt is sure fire works every time you WILL go to the bathroom within the hour. MIx 1-2 tsp of epsom salt to 8oz of water. Stir until dissolved. Add lemon for flavor,'I don't, it does taste bad but it works pretty fast.

Then take the other answerers advice and start adding fish oil to your diet. To keep things moving regularly. - Jen N


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