Why Don't doctors tell their patients about vitamin D-3?

Question 1
Why Don't doctors tell their patients about vitamin D-3?...  The proof you seek is right here! ScienceDaily (July 7, 2009) — The active form of vitamin D3 seems to have anticancer effects. To try and understand the mechanisms underlying these effects, researchers previously set out to identify genes whose expression in a human colon cancer cell line was altered by the active form of vitamin D3.


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One gene identified in this previous study was CST5, which is responsible for making the protein cystatin D. Now, a team of researchers, at the Consejo Superior de Investigaciones Científicas-Universidad Autónoma de Madrid, Spain, and the Universidad de Oviedo, Spain, has studied this protein in detail and determined that it has tumor suppressor activity that likely accounts for some of the anticancer effects of the active form of vitamin D3.

The team, led by Alberto Muñoz and Carlos López-Otín, initially established that the active form of vitamin D3 directly activates the CST5 gene in human colon cancer cell lines, increasing levels of cystatin D protein. Functionally, cystatin D was shown to inhibit the growth of human colon cancer cells lines in vitro and when they were xenotransplanted into mice. As knocking down expression of cystatin D in human colon cancer cell lines rendered them unresponsive to the antiproliferative effects of the active form of vitamin D3, the authors conclude that CST5 is a candidate tumor suppressor gene and that it mediates a large proportion of the anticancer effects of the active form of vitamin D3. These data provide rationale for clinical trials examining the preventive and therapeutic potential of the active form of vitamin D3 in colon cancer.

The proof is in the pudding!
Hey NITRAM! PROVE ME WRONG DUDE! GARY Y! PROVE ME WRONG! You guy's can type Can't you? PROVE ME WRONG. It's a dam shame that people like you would try to withhold good sound information that can save millions of lives! WHAT IS YOUR HIDDEN AGENDA!
Good work "RedAngel" There's no one so blind as the one's that will not see!
WFour nutrition experts, including two Council for Responsible Nutrition (CRN) scientists and two of the world’s pre-eminent vitamin D researchers, are urging the Food and Nutrition Board (FNB) to raise the vitamin D Tolerable Upper Intake Level (UL) five-fold, based on a safety evaluation of the latest scientific research. This research shows that vitamin D is safe at intake levels much higher than its current UL.

The paper, published in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition (AJCN) concludes the safety profile of vitamin d should safely permit raising the UL for vitamin D to 250ug (10,000IU) per day from the current UL of 50 ug (2,000IU) per day.

The researchers from Mount Sinai Hospital in Toronto and Creighton University report that the UL established by the Food & Nutrition Board is outdated. It is not based on current evidence and is viewed by many in the scientific community as being too restrictive-limiting research, commercial development, and optimization of nutriti
It's the only article's you idiots understand!
NITRAM, Congratulation! You know how to copy and paste.... That just shows how fed up I am with you guy's You're all NUCKIN FUTS! Get outta this section! I bet you'll never see in general health!

Answers
1)   Too much info. Could lead to a stampede. - Now Now

2)   "The proof you seek is right here......The active form of vitamin D3 seems to have anticancer effects."

How do you get from "seems".....to "proof"?

It appears you have posted a pilot study - in vitro - and on mice - into the effects of D3 on colon cancer.

Perhaps some doctors do discuss vitamin D3 with certain cancer patients; I don't now, and neither do you. But what I do know is that you either don't read what you copy/paste, you don't understand what you copy/paste, or you are dishonest.

Please cite your sources in future.

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EDIT: Sorry, I can't prove you wrong; proving the negative is not logically possible. In any case - you are making the claim; you have the burden of proof.

Over to you... - Gary Y

3)   Cite the paper.

I don't believe it says what you believe it says and you have provided no evidence that this paper even exists outside of kook websites.

Here is a more recent study

Jenab et al. Association between pre-diagnostic circulating vitamin D concentration and risk of colorectal cancer in European populations:a nested case-control study. BMJ, 2010; 340 (jan21 3): b5500 DOI: 10.1136/bmj.b5500

The conclusion

"Currently, the best recommendation to reduce ones risk of colorectal cancer is to stop smoking, increase physical activity, reduce obesity and abdominal fatness, and limit intakes of alcohol and red and processed meats."

Just as the medical people have been saying for years.

ETA

" Medical journals rely on big pharma's ads to pay the bills so yet another conflict of interest."

Utter rubbish. They pay their bills through subscription fees. It's very expensive taking out a subscription to a science journal for that very reason. You're comparing the science journals to the quack tabloids - totally different kettle of fish

"From: Know the Cause
SITE MY NUTS PUNK!
Message: You are a bad person! You and the rest of your kind that lurk in this section are wrong but too dumb to know it!"

tsk.tsk. What a nice person you are. - Nitram

4)   Most doctors get their information from medical journals that rely on pharmaceutical companies for advertising. Medical journals rely on big pharma's ads to pay the bills so yet another conflict of interest. I'm sure some doctors are up to date with the latest info about vitamin D, but many are not. You won't see a vitamin D symposium for medical professionals for instance. Those "educational" symposiums are advertising the latest and most expensive drugs.

Highly Cited and Recent Papers on UVB and/or Vitamin D and Cancer (826 Papers)>>>
http://mercola.fileburst.com/PDF/703-highly_cited_vitamin_D_cancer%5B3%5D.pdf - ƦєdAиgєℓ

5)   as medicine gets more and more commercial - mali

6)   So doctors do not unilaterally recommend a treatment that is only in it's infancy as far as testing goes?

You don't say!

Learn the definition of the words "seems to".

EDIT: How come you're now quoting studies done by so called "Big Pharma" controlled entities? You cannot say they are all corrupt when their research doesen't suit your beliefs then quote their studies when you like the outcome. They're either corrupt or or they aren't. - Flizbap 2.0

7)   You haven't provided a source. But if it's as Gary says, that the studies were on mice and in test tubes, you are jumping the gun.

There is huge difference between human and animal studies. A common problem within the alternative "medicine" brigade is that you people confuse basic science research with clinical research. While test tube studies can be used as a basis for future research, this cannot be the basis of any clinical claims such as cancer cures! Basic research alone is a poor predictor of the actual health effects of a substance on the human body. Human physiology is very complex and you cannot extrapolate data like that.

Provide a source so we can have a look
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Edit: Careful KTC...you nearly lost your temper... - Rhianna

8)   Red angel has it! - Katie

9)   I don't think you understand how research works.

Cells aren't animals and mice aren't people. Science Daily is exaggerated the study to increase page views. Read the actual paper. - Weise Ente

10)   aho! - kartua

11)   Hey! Listen to these skeptics! what are they even doing here asking for proof of everything

we don't want you here. gtfo of here - fight the system

12)   Every doctor I know north of the 40th parallel for the last two years has been practically shoving Vitamin D testing and vitamin D onto patients since the guidelines came out. - Tink


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Question 2
Making myself throw up to feel better?...  I'm really sick with a stomach virus and I think that making myself throw up will put a little ease on my tummy. I'M NOT DOING THIS TO LOSE WEIGHT OF ANY KIND. Would it help or only do damage?

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1)   Cool Story, Bro. - Bad Advice

2)   What I would do is eat a full meal. Chances are your body will expel of the food naturally, its better than sticking your finger in and making it happen. - JEBUS!!!!!

3)   I recommend you to see ----> http://www.all-home-remedies.com
I hope that will resolve your problem, keep using answers.yahoo.com - BabyFace

4)   It might make you feel better. But your body will make you throw up if you need to.
Making yourself throw up while you're not sick will be damaging. - Poor Answers On Demand

5)   it might help but only for a while because you will then feel sick again like you need to throw up. i know when i feel like that i take a little bit of pepto bismole and it will make be sick

could you answer my question? its from my other account http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AqKNYdNh9kF6icpRp40j1dDsy6IX;_ylv=3?qid=20100913231846AAus7K5 - Anthony and Danielle

6)   Vomiting if you have to is a natural reaction and a defensive process of the body.
It happens if it tries to get rid of he bad stuff.
It may help in certain situations but it is also possible that it will not be any better after that at all. - dscharge

7)   Honestly, if there is any damage being done, it's miniscule. I have thrown up a few times when feeling sick and it has helped put me at ease or to fall asleep because the nausea has subsided. In my opinion, yes it will make you feel better, but no, it probably isn't the healthiest option. - Lorissa

8)   It will help, but don't keep doing it. BUT eat a little something beforehand, even if it's a dry biscuit, or if you can face it, a little toast or an apple. You know what you can tolerate. It's just so that you have something to throw up, and it's not just bile. This helped me when I had to make a ferry crossing across a very rough Irish Sea one year when I had seasickness - I had a dry biscuit, & made myself throw up, & it helped.
When you have a sick tummy, try nibbling on a banana (if you like them) very slowly, as bananas are bland & soothing on the tum, also they have potassium, & sugar to give energy. I also find Ginger Capsules great for any form of sickness - I get them from Holland & Barrett. They are great for digestion, & ginger has natural antibacterial properties. Even ginger biscuits are good, they helped me with morning sickness when I was pregnant. Also try Andrews Liver Salts. Hope this helps, and you feel better soon. x - k.a


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Question 3
How do the skeptics on here cope without god in their lives?...  the want evidence of everything so i guess they don't believe in god. perhaps that's part of their problem.

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1)   Some days I have an extra cup of tea.

Edit: Yes KTC and FTS are probably the full meal deal, Tink: woo supporters and religious zealots. Probably all round science denialists too. They generally think "goddit". - Rhianna

2)   Very well, thank you - anon

3)   if you want religion....go to church - KJEW

4)   Voltaire tried to prove the existence of god by finding a paris hospital for incurables and employing pius folk to pray for half of the incurables to get better and the other half to die he came under pressure from the church and had to flee the country so even the church did not think prayer would make any difference - L CALABAN

5)   They all seem rather comfy with the idea, or lack thereof...The freedom to have no God is one of the luxuries of free will....

You aren't going to R & S troll here in Alt Med too, are you? Sigh... - Tink

6)   Fight the system, Yea I bet they're too scared to bring that up on here. Anyone that doesn't believe in God thinks they are so much smarter than the 90% of us that do. the way they answer questions on here you can tell they are already living with a God complex. They got the whole world figured out! HELL scientist don't even know much about the universe but I bet the skeptics on here can tell em! Ha Ha - Know the Cause

7)   have you ever thought that these people might always want evidence because they have been let down far too many times? and that possibly the results of being let down and the hurt that being let down has caused has also led to a loss of faith. I am only sixteen years of age but there have been so many bad times in my life and so much hurt that I have seen others be put through that my beliefs in any type of God have well and truly disappeared. I would not class myself as negative however I enjoy life and enjoy many experiences that I have come across and been lucky to encounter but all of the horrible, bad and hurt that I have also come across has just led me to believe that their is no superior being looking out for us.

I am a strong believer in karma and that we make our own fate, I also believe that we live on in our souls reincarnation.

Im sorry if you do not agree with my views and if you think that I disagree with yours. Each to their own is my belief. I gave you my honest opinion and the reason why that is all =) - ~ThatsJustMe~


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Question 4
How many times a week do you wake n' bake?...  And about how many times a day do you smoke?

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1)   i dont smoke :)

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AioEVfDRkv3MKMeZeIQTbZye5HNG;_ylv=3?qid=20100914012439AAcDiWx - Maggie

2)   Well it depends on the mood I'm in. I prefer to do the baking the previous afternoon/evening and eat left-overs the next morning. - Nitram

3)   Wake n Bake only on Sundays - work Monday to Saturday

Smoke when get home till go to bed, can range from 1 bong to 5 or 6 if got friends over. - Redeye Jedi

4)   i am not a smoker

and i am not a cook too.... - bond' 007

5)   how many hairs are on your head...?

the answer will be different for everyone.

and it's kinda an old/repeated a gazillion times over question... - ffrr


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Question 5
They say weed is not addictive?...  Yet i sit here wishing and wishing..and craving and craving..and jonesing and jonesing for a sack

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1)   Lol it's not physically addictive, but you can still be psychologically addicted. Just smoke a cigarette and find something to keep your mind occupied so you don't think about it. - Detective John Kimble

2)   You sound bored and are looking for an escape. Weed is not addictive but it is habit forming. - WilliamG

3)   weed is not addictive physically but it's adddictive mentally. you are addicted to the feeling it gives but not to the product. i smoked a lot and f.e. on holidays i didn't and 6 months ago i quit just like that. you will not get sick by not smoking weed, unlike cocaine, heroine or even caffeine and alcohol addicts. - ben

4)   Word up. I agree - Mike D

5)   Strange - Id worry if that were me. I smoke everyday, yet never crave it - Redeye Jedi


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