Homeopathy believers: How can you believe it when if it worked, it would break the laws of physics?

Question 1
Homeopathy believers: How can you believe it when if it worked, it would break the laws of physics?...  I honestly don't understand how anyone can buy into homeopathy. When you dilute something to those levels, you're getting to a point where there's like 20 molecules of the active ingredient in all of that water, so you're not even guaranteed to get even one molecule of the active ingredient.

Since homeopathy has never been proven to have any efficacy and does no better than a placebo, how can you believe in it? And to the people who actually take people's money to make these solutions, do you ever feel guilty about misleading people?
No, sorry the laws of physics have proven time and time again to be correct. If there was ever a recorded observation EVER that didn't fit into them, then they would not be laws, so...yeah actually I am better if I buy into physics and not homeopathy.
@mom lol....no

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1)   They are dumb, naive, ignorant and uneducated. - Daniel Darko

2)   while i agree homeopathy has only placebo value,you are no better because you believe in the laws of physics which are an approximate guess at best. - I AM paradox

3)   most illnesses go away on their own if given enough time and our bodies immune system is allowed to work as it should.
All that needs to happen is be treated by a homeopath and when the illness goes away on its own, the homeopath gets the accolades.
Most things folks go to the doctor for are like that.
People survived them before everyone ran to the doctor for every little thing.
colds, flu, stomach upsets, sprains, torn muscles, broken finger, broken toes, boils, minor skin infections, skin irritations all heal on their own. All we have to do is rest, drink plenty of fluids, and use common sense.
When a homeopath adds a tincture of 'what ever" to the mix, believers think thats what cured them when actually it was time and our own body. - ckngbbbls

4)   I really have no idea why I am writing you as you are clearly closed minded and are not open to the possibilities of homeopathy. No I am not a homeopath, but yes I use homeopathy for myself and my family for years with excellent results. I hear what you are saying but homeopathy is on a energetic level, not biological. So I don't think it is exactly something you can measure with research; that of course is usually research done by pharmaceutical companies or companies that are already against homeopathy.
Physics is about energy as well...so how can you be for physics but not for homeopathy? Doesn't make sense. I treat my children all the time with homeopathy and they respond amazingly. Actually, children seem to do the best with it because their bodies are open, free, and not full of "junk", like most adults.
I too, did not believe in homeopathy, or any other alternative medicine for a long time, as I was pre-med in my 20s and was a total conventional thinker....but I was lead on a different journey, did some research/reading on my own and really changed my life.
I don't think homeopathy is 100% for everyone and I don't think that it is the only option in every case, but it is a noninvasive, inexpensive, and safe alternative to pharmaceuticals. So why not give them a try?
If it isn't for you, that is okay, you do what works for you and your family. But why be negative and attack other people for it. That doesn't help anyone. - momnhannah2005

5)   http://www.slideshare.net/drprabhatlkw/homeopathy-in-pandemics-epidemics - ƦєdAиgєℓ

6)   They don't care about reality. Evidence is not a requirement to these people.

Everything we know about the universe says it can't work. It's very clearly bunk.

@mom: Anecdotes aren't on parr with evidence.

It's not us who is close minded. YOU are closed minded because you refuse to accept the overwhelming evidence showing it is bunk.

You have to understand that it's not a case of homeopathy working and science being unable to explain the mechanism; it's never worked beyond placebo in any decent RCT.

"Physics is about energy as well...so how can you be for physics but not for homeopathy?"
What the hell?

"Doesn't make sense."
That's right, you don't make a whole lot of sense...

"I treat my children all the time with homeopathy.."
That's tantamount to child neglect, in reality they got better anyway.

"But why be negative and attack other people for it. That doesn't help anyone."
Because gullible people are being scammed. Homeopathy causes harm when used in place of actual medicine. - Rhianna does Medicine Year 1

7)   Mom, no offense but your understanding of physics is poor at best. Energy is studied in physics, but I think you don't know what energy means. It's not a feeling, it's not a life force, it's not some abstract concept that can be applied to anything you choose. It is the capacity to do work; end of story.

The laws of physics are the strongest argument against homeopathy (which you're too close minded to bother studying, because you're so open minded towards homeopathy). However, even without the easily demonstrated violation of well known physical laws (that have MOUNTAINS of scientific evidence spanning centuries supporting them) there is still ample evidence against homeopathy (which open minded people acknowledge, but close minded people do not). Time after time again, well designed clinical trials have failed to find any benefit from homeopathy. What we find is that people derive the same nonspecific psychological benefits that are also well characterized and studied in the scientific literature (again, try being legitimately open minded).

There is no reason to believe homeopathy works, and ample reason to assume it doesn't. Without some really impressive evidence, this will remain so. Real skeptics such as myself and Rhianna above me are open minded to that, but not to assertions that something works because you say it does. That's not being open minded, that's being gullible. - Round 2

8)   Well it should not be investigated in this way.Like homeopathy do cures, yes it does no doubts about it. No what you said is equally true, even more in my opinion.
So we need many homeopaths doing research on the question HOW rather anything else, there is a way in which it acts. It more surely better than a placebo.
Ant time is good time to start and any time is good time for a new discovery. - Nick Pattinson

9)   You are quite right that the ideas behind homeopathy are nonsense. But the homeopaths lack an understanding of the placebo effect and regression to the mean (and at least one of them lack an understanding of basic physics and physiology). The result of this is, that they experience a confirmation bias (and their custumors do that too) - It seems to work anyway. Intuition inspires confidence. - JLI

10)   Just to add something, homeopathy was certainly once far more effective than the best medicines of the time. Much better to drink just plain water than be lanced, burned, pricked, prayed for and leeched to balance your humors. Obviously now it's utter bollocks, you can probably get just as many of the 'active' ingredients from tap water as it's been diluted so many times.

Medicine can learn from certain practices of the homeopaths and other woo woo practitioners though. All a lot of people really need when they're sick is care and attention, someone to give a sh*t (albeit with a hefty price tag). The hospital doctor with a surly bedside manner or the overworked nurse can be detrimental to people's health too. and at least with homeopathy it's just water they're giving them, rather than a harmful substance.

I'm not trying to defend homeopathy, but attacking it purely on the grounds of experimental evidence of their cures isn't always the best way. To defeat the quacks we need to understand why they are so popular, and take any positives and use them to better the real types of healthcare - Jon B

11)   How do they believe? Magical thinking, cognitive dissonance, and in extreme cases: psychosis. - Tink


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Question 2
Should I consult a doctor first or not?...  Hi I'm a 16 year old male and I have been suffering with ulcerative colitis for 2 years I have tried all the drugs from steroids to sulfa to remicade to antibiotics, and I now my doctor is recommending surgery. I have read about digestive enzymes and probiotics and know people who have cured their colitis with these supplements. But I just want to know if I can go to my natural health store and buy these supplements without a doctors prescription. Thanks for your help
I also want to know if I could buy fish oil b12 pills without a prescription thanks

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1)   i would consult your doctor before getting the medications, and if your doctor disagrees find another doctor at your clinic or hospital. - brownies

2)   YES!!! Just remember alternative medicine is not medicine at all. They day it is proven to actually work it becomes medicine, with no alternative tag. Whilst it is catergorically wrong to say no alternative medicine can work, it's true that the vast majority have been proven to have no medicinal value beyondthe placebo effect. I don't envy your position but go with the professionals, you can always go to another doc for a second opinion - Jon B

3)   Nothing in a health food store needs a prescription, neither does fish oil

If you are currently on medication don't mix anything without checking with your doctor first as it may have bad side effects.

Although alternative health methods can and sometimes do work you need to be careful what you mix together it can kill you just like the wrong medication can. - unknown friend

4)   If you have UC bad enough to warrant surgery at that age, I wouldn't be surprised if any of those things would make you more miserable.

Ask the doctor first, and if he says ok, then only add one at a time, wait a month then add a second, and so on. - Tink

5)   You have tried all the drugs from steroids to sulfa to remicade to antibiotics and now your
doctor recommends surgery. Does it ever occur to you that you have been conned so far,
probably to make a big kill by going for surgery. For a change why not consult a genuine
good homeopathic doctor who would guide properly unless he tells you otherwise. If you
can be cured won't it save you lots of money and misery of surgery. Think it over.
Good luck and God bless. Cheers! - Sudhakar B

6)   Digestive enzymes and probiotics are amazing for digestive problems. You can also buy fish oil and vitamin B12 without prescription. Sublingual (under the tongue) B12 is better for absorption. I would recommend the book called Breaking The Vicious Cycle by Elaine Gottshall. Her diet - The Specific Carbohydrate Diet (SPD) has proven to be highly successful for many who suffer from various bowel disorders. Info about the book is on the first link and the second link is a video of someone with a similar condition to yours called Crohn's Colitis. He no longer suffers symptoms, is on no medication, and is off the SPC diet after 2 years.

Breaking The Vicious Cycle >>>
http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/

CROHN'S DISEASE CURE ULCERATIVE COLITIS CURE CROHN'S OLITIS IBS CURE SCD DIET >>>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eakGq9AKF2w - ƦєdAиgєℓ


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Question 3
What is your best cure for a cold?...  Got flu type symptoms what are your remedies?

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1)   Snort water. I know it sound terrible but it makes you feel 100 times better. Fill a glass with water and place it up to your nose and breath a little in. Make you feel amazing after it. - JarFillsme

2)   Theraflu!
Also if I get a sore throat I cook up some honey and lemon and it helps a lot plus it tastes really good - poohbeariscoolerthanyou

3)   Lot's of fluid(water) and sleep. Soup or porridge for meals and perhaps fruit smoothie for more nutrition.
Also, you have trouble sleeping because of fever or body ache you may have to resort to over-the-counter medicine to help you feel better. - immamaniac

4)   Drink plenty of fluids and take aspirin, no cure for cold, has to run it's coarse - joyce t

5)   Brew some strong tea, with honey and lemon - no milk. Drink it while it's hot. Also a hot shower or bath helps, as does an asprin and rest. - PuzzledM

6)   I swear by Zicam, or taking zinc every 4 hours at the onset of a cold. It works for me, but may not work for everyone. Cant hurt to try.

also, the first post said to snort water...YES, but not that way :) You can purchase a 'Netty' or 'Nettie' bottle in almost any drug store or Wal-Mart. It is similar to a nasal spray bottle, and it comes with a saline mix. you stand over the sink, or in the shower, shoot it up one nostril, and it will run right out the other. this clears out your nasal passage VERY well and rids a lot of the 'crap'. You can use it as often as you feel necessary. Feel Better! - LADY


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Question 4
Can chocolate be used in treating Parkinsonism?...  chocolate stimulates the release of tyrosine and eventually dopamine in brain, but i figured out in websites that we must avoid chocolate in Parkinsonism, and they don't say why. and why is that?

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1)   dont know - veronica

2)   Medical science can do a better job of treating Parkinson's...try that. - Sans Deity

3)   Some plants have naturally occurring chemicals in them that happen to be medicinal. Usually they occur in trace amounts. Alternative medicine should only be used in addition to western medicine. - someguy88

4)   Depends on the chocolate. They say to avoid it because of the high sugar content, which is in most chocolates. However, REAL chocolate, with a high cacao percent (65% and higher), is full of antioxidants, and that is helpful for brain chemistry.
Personally I would not treat Parkinson's with just chocolate, as that isn't going to do you much good. You would be better off with high antioxidants such as Glutathione.

Good luck - momnhannah2005


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Question 5
Has anyone here tried the herbal smoke - like kronic etc?...  Heard a lot of bad stuff about it, just wondering if anyone has tried any of them.

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1)   no -___- i don't wanna kill my brain cells. - abbie

2)   try it u will like it trus me its not bad it only could take 1 year from ur life - Gevo

3)   Yea don't bother with any of them. If you want a high then I suggest you buy the proper stuff. Kronic caused severe hallucinations with me. I honestly thought I was a gonner. The only thing I'd suggest is gold dust which literally is like gold dust. It's more scarce than illegal substances but well worth it once you get hold of some. - gemsi27

4)   smoked salvia before but its trippy sh!t, never again!!!! if ya go on youtube and search salvia trips ya can see the effect it has on some people. weed itself is the best thing to smoke IF you are into smoking. ak47 is the best i tried in the past.

And as for the 'I don't wanna kill my brain cells' type judgmental loser......ignore......I would never recommend that you smoke but if you are considering it, it is better to be well informed. - cindy


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