Friday, October 22, 2010

Is alternative medicine information being manipulated on Wikipedia and google search engines?

Question 1
Is alternative medicine information being manipulated on Wikipedia and google search engines?...  http://bolenreport.com/feature_articles/feature_article070.htm

It looks like someone has exposed a rat about how misinformation is propagated to the public trying to do honest research into other than mainstream medicine. What does this indicate about the skeppie organizations?
The skeppies are busted!
I'd believe a federal judge when he decides that Stephen Barrett is "no expert" and initiated frivolous lawsuits solely for his own financial gain.
The fact that skeppies are just tools in the pockets of these type of people speaks for itself.

Answers
1)   What you have there is a rant by a paranoid conspiracy theorist who finds it necessary to stoop to ad hominem attacks. Who cares? It doesn’t mean people shouldn’t be skeptical of alternative medicine. Especially when proponents such as yourself make dangerous claims like homeopathy can cure epilepsy, then refuse to back those claims up.

Since he attacks Peter Bowditch, see what Peter has to say: http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles/comment/timoranter.htm well worth the read.

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EDIT: The wiki page on Alternative Medicine looks like a fair, balanced and truthful, encyclopedic account to me: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_health - Gary Y

2)   Ah, more ad hominem attacks on Barrett and various other 'myth-dispellers' by Bolen. When false claims are challenged, the alt.med supporters often have a habit of spreading lies and misinformation about the critics and come up with grand implausible conspiracies. It's desperate.

At the end of the day, what matters is data. And data actually shows the vast majority of AltMed does not work beyond placebo. Nothing you lot say alters this this fact.

There is no "plot" to spread lies and misinformation about Alt.Med or to "hide" data showing alt.med works. The only people who actually go around lying are the Alt.Med promoters.

In short, either provide evidence your woo works, or STFU.
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By the way, that judge wasn't specifically referring to homeopathy when he said Barret wasn't an expert. He was actually referring to knowledge of FDA procedures and regulations. For this reason, the court did not consider him an appropriate expert to give testimony on the subject. It didn't actually refute any of his testimony.

And apparently it's wrong to have an opinion about homeopathy unless you have no opinion a all. That's an issue with the law.

This does not mean Barret was wrong. - Rhianna does Medicine Year 1

3)   No, actually the author of that piece of unsubstantiated nonsense is Tim Bolen who made a lot of money out of failing to defend Hulda "I have a cure for cancer but it didn't work on me" Clark. It's just a load of conspiratorial nonsense he made up one day when he was bored.

My favourite bit is:

"Having trouble finding legitimate research papers that back up the science of advanced health care? Of course you are. There is a systematic attempt to make those kinds of scientific research NOT available on the internet. I'm not going into detail here, for the investigation of how this works, AND WHO, SPECIFICALLY, is behind it is ongoing. But, it is happening."

LMAO! This basically sums the whole article up!

More info about this dodgy individual here: http://www.quackwatch.com/11Ind/bolen.html - dave

4)   Well this question is easy; no.

Conspiracy theories are the way complete idiots explain the world around them. - Flizbap 2.0

5)   Wikipedia is biased. They only show the real side of things. - Mynem

6)   "In an article by the watchdog group Alliance for Natural Health (ANH), Wikipedia entries for alternative and natural medicine are shown to consistently have severe censorship, misinformation, and vandalism."

Larry Sanger, cofounder of Wikipedia, left the organization due to concerns about its integrity.

"In some fields and some topics, there are groups who 'squat' on articles and insist on making them reflect their own specific biases. There is no credible mechanism to approve versions of articles. Vandalism, once a minor annoyance, has become a major headache-made possible because the community allows anonymous contribution. Many experts have been driven away because know-nothings insist on ruining their articles."

Widespread Condemnation of Wikipedia Bias Readers Report Suppression of Nutritional Medicine>>>
http://orthomolecular.org/resources/omns/v06n16.shtml

Exposed: Wikipedia Holds Bias against Natural Health>>>
http://www.naturalnews.com/029939_Wikipedia_bias.html - ƦєdAиgєℓ

7)   "thenoseknows" Just listen to all the nonsense from the "I'm scared I will lose my job if people find out the truth" Skeptics. They try to make everyone on here believe that they are in it for them. When thousands upon thousands of people die needlessly at the hands of these monsters every year! And that's just in the US. They themselves have been brainwashed by something even more powerful than their egos. "The Big Pharma" They debunk perfectly healthy life Style changes and make people believe that only man made products can cure disease. Isn't it scary? - Know the Cause

8)   Google tries to return primary literature articles when prompted to. To put it lightly, they don't support alternative "medicine."

Maybe reality is in on this conspiracy. - Weise Ente

9)   Why is old cat lady angry this time? Instead of spouting stupid conspiracy theories why don't you offer some reason why Alternative medicine works.

Let's start with, how does homeopathy work? How does it cure epilepsy for example. - Angelhil

10)   Fantastic! - Katie


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Question 2
Does the U.S. government really have our best interest at heart?...  Check out this link and you decide...http://www.naturalnews.com/021791.html
To Rhianna, I didn't delete anything! One of you skeptics reported it and got it removed! The truth hurts don't it! looks like the embarrassment is in your court baby!
Edit: And for those of you that think the Government is here to protect us...You are a sheep following the herd and you will fall with it. 80% of the people in the US do not trust are believe that the government has anything but money on it's mind. Just read the first answer and you too will know the cause!!!!!!!!!!!!
Seeya, You are a @#%&! and brainwashed. Wake up! It's a new world! Get with the program. In ten years you too will know the cause!
The biggest SCAM ever is right under your nose and you are too brainwashed to see it. It's called the GOVERNMENT! Poor stupid!
Moonskin, Thanks for your inteligent answers. Always good to hear from someone that's not been brainwashed by the system.

Answers
1)   No, they behave solely in their own best interest and those of the rich Jew bankers who support them. U.S. citizens are losing their jobs, losing their houses, and living in makeshift camps in public parks, and who does the government help? Rich Jew bankers. Lehman Brothers, Goldman Sachs, Merrill Lynch, Citigroup, JP Morgan Chase, Bank of America, etc. They get bailed out while we remain jobless and homeless. - John

2)   Not at all. Fascinating article. Moral decision making will always be compromised by the few 'at the top' who desire money and power over doing the right thing. They will go to any lengths to suppress medicines that are better and really do work if they cannot make a profit out of it. People who speak the truth are always ridiculed by the system. No surprises there then! Like I said before - it doesn't matter if there is evidence that speaks to the contrary - it will ignored and condemned by ignorant fools. Whatever! - Katie

3)   Absolutely not. There is a long history of the persecution of anyone who goes against the "status quo" whenever there's money involved. There are no cases whatsoever of supplements or vitamins killing anyone, much less causing injury, however the drug companies have been marketing deadly products for years that have resulted in hundreds of thousands of deaths and injuries. Have they been closed down? Obviously not. Have they been raided? No.
Drug companies contribute major $$$ to politicians and political parties. So do the oil and chemical cartels. The government is not running things anymore. The corporations are. And they're being run by psychopaths who have no scruples. - thenoseknows

4)   No the government does not have anyone but their own interest at their cold hearts.

Thankfully people are waking up to the corruption, greed, power, elitism etc, and hopefully eventually the population will understand what is really going on in this world.

There is a huge wealth of material on secret agendas/projects etc, all available if you look in the right places.

Do not believe what you see in the media, do not believe that life is simply about slaving away to make pennies. We are in an illusion, a false reality, and they like it that way. Call it the dumbing down of people if you will.

It's an illusion of being free, when really we are anything but.

Also, so much of our history is hidden from the public, aswel as what's going on in the Universe, that's a great subject to research, you'll be amazed! - MoonSkin

5)   Only if you are an illegal alien, then you get free tax, free health care, free housing, free medicine, free dental, free food...need I say more? - zapman

6)   Be thankful they are there to protect us, they've been recalling products that are killing us and making us sick! What's the problem?

The CNN, Consumer Reports, MSN, Everyday Health have been writing about the fake supplements we are wasting our money BILLIONS OF MONEY that are making people sicker. . . .and they all don't work for the government.

If they're not there for us, who would? So many people have already wasted their money on products that made promises, and only to do more harm to us than good.

Google any article and you'll find them printed. THEY ALL DON'T WORK FOR THE GOVERNMENT.

Examples: Protein Shake Poisoning or Danger of Protein Shakes.
http://fittipdaily.com/poison-in-your-protein-shake-5491/

http://www.everydayhealth.com/diet-nutrition/vitamins-and-meds/the-one-supplement-everyone-needs.aspx
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16655168/wid/11915773?GT1=8921

SHOCKING? Well, too bad, a lot of people have kidney problems, liver problems, hair loss, toenails that fell off, diarrhea, and lung problems because of those FRAUDS committed by products sold to consumers.

Think about it the next time you buy one to enhance yourself. You get everything from Mother Nature, but now those are also tainted.

I support the FDA fully for getting on their toes. I think they're doing a darn good job! - Seeya

7)   In this case yes. They are shutting down cranks and charlatans. If they had any actual evidence supporting their claims, that wouldn't have happened.

Why do you support scam artist preying on the gullible and desperate. - Weise Ente

8)   The US government do a lot of things that give me indigestion, but in this instance, the government are actually trying to protect you from charlatans. Your problem with this is what exactly?

And what happened to your post yesterday? Get embarrassed and delete it did ya? - Rhianna does Medicine Year 1

9)   No. Their aim is to make money. They don't care about us or our health. They are running an extortion racket. Big pharma actually pays them to hunt down natural medicine providers.


ETA
Rhianna is naive. Her level of naivety is laughable. Look: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20101020174844AAznIHp

!!!!!! - awful


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Question 3
What is the best way to relieve a sore throat?...  

Answers
1)   Give some - It's Time for Change

2)   Gargle with apple cider vinegar (you should dilute it in a little water). Repeat as often as needed. - Amanda M

3)   warm water lemon juice and honey.
drink it slowly. - mikew19532004

4)   drink a lot of water, drink tea
sleep early
gargle mouth wash or hard alcohol or salted water - Joe

5)   about it you can get information from here http://canmdh99.notlong.com/AAH5Qfd - Shonta Mangas

6)   I suggest that you go the natural route. Drugs may clear it up quicker but many times leave negative side effects. Here are a few tips. To speed the healing of a sore throat, try applying a thin film of carrier oil externally over the throat area. Canola, sunflower, grapeseed and safflower are popular choices and are available in most health food stores.
Apply seven drops of sandalwood essential oil over the carrier oil and rub gently into the skin. This treatment is soothing and smells wonderful, and the carrier oil prevents skin irritation.
Or add two drops of tea tree, ginger, sandalwood or geranium essential oil to ½ ounce of warm water and gargle. Any of these essential oils can be taken with a spoonful of honey to coat the throat.

Stir ½ teaspoon of salt and 1 teaspoon of turmeric into a cup of hot water, and gargle with this mixture before going to bed

Take two or more cloves, crushed or whole, at the first sign of a sore throat and continue eating two cloves a day until your symptoms clear up.

Raw garlic is the most effective, but it can cause gastrointestinal upset. I suggests baking and stir-frying as other ways of getting garlic into your diet. Or, take garlic supplements for all of the benefits with none of the digestive upset. Garlic supplements are available in most health food stores and many drugstores; I suggest taking three capsules twice a day with meals until your symptoms clear up.

Vitamin C can help prevent infection and speed up the healing process. You can safely take up to 10,000 milligrams a day of vitamin C at the first sign of a problem, provided you drink plenty of water to flush away excess amounts of the nutrient. - JoyLynn

7)   If it is viral infection warm salt water gargling will be sufficient,if it is bacterial then 10 day course of antibiotics like Amoxicillin 3 times a day is necessary. - Venky

8)   You should use naproxen, it is the best about it you can get information from here http://canmdh21.notlong.com/AAH5Qfd - Larry Witthuhn


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Question 4
does pot make you loose your sex drive?...  My boyfriend and i moved in together in may and before we moved in we had sex like no other but now in the past- months of living together we have only had sex times when we would use to have it 4 times a weekend. My question is now that he has his own place he smokes pot alot more he did occasionally but now he takes hits a fw times a day instead of once or twice do u think him smoking more is the reason why he lost his sex drive or do u think he is just masterbating and dont need me anymore, thanks please honest question?
no not at all now since we moved in together

Answers
1)   about it you can get information from here http://canmdh100.notlong.com/AAGbXtO - Shonta Mangas

2)   I never had that problem with it, in fact, my wife and I would smoke together and then have sex. High sex is almost better than drunk sex. I don't think it's masturbation either. Just because you used to do it 4 times in a weekend now you don't doesn't mean that he's losing his sex drive. I'm guessing you have sex more during the week now that you live together.

EDIT: Maybe it has caused a loss in sex drive then. Do you smoke too? If you do, have him shotgun you, it will bring intimacy into the activity. - Metal Cult

3)   You should use cialis, it is the best about it you can get information from here http://mdcan99.notlong.com/2AAGbXt - Xuan Sboro

4)   no it inhanses it ! :) - Frank

5)   Here i s an excellent site with some wonderful options for you. It will definitely help you. Have a look. http://canmdh101.notlong.com/AAGbXtO - Larry Witthuhn

6)   Not in my experience, it had always made me more wanting it!! - duncsgirl


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Question 5
Multivitamins: How to take them correctly.?...  I heard it's better for you to split your multivitamin : take half of it in the morning and the other half in the evening. Is there any truth to this?

Answers
1)   none at all. read the label, some you can take twice a day. that don't mean you cut it in half, means you take two tabs a day. - rayray

2)   Better, but still probably a waste of your time & money....

Vitamins that are derived from tablets dissolve in your stomach acid, are absorbed by your small intestine, then enter your blood, circulate your body (being absorbed by cells as needed), then are filtered out by your kidneys and pass into your urine, all in the space of about fifteen or twenty minutes. (Think about how quickly after drinking a pint of water you find you need to pee) Vitamins derived from complex foods you eat follow the same basic path, but at a much slower and more drawn-out rate (since it takes far longer for foods to be broken down and to be digested than the two minutes it takes for a tablet that instantly dissolves in the hydrochloric acid in your stomach) so they are entering your bloodstream and being drawn-out by cells over a period of hours rather than minutes...

Taking multivitamins is not going to harm you, but it is very unlikely to afford you any benefit, either...but don't trust me, ask your Doctor! - MarcThyme

3)   My advice? Don't take them, period. They are doing the body more harm than good - MSN
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16655168/wid/11915773?GT1=8921

People spend $20 billion per year on vitamins and supplements.  According to Everyday Health, here's an article that will tell you why . . . those PRODUCTS by any other name do NOT WORK.  It is false advertisements.

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) doesn’t have to approve supplements — no agency in the United States does. So it’s up to consumers to bring health concerns to light. “It’s important to understand the difference between over-the-counter medications and dietary supplements,” say Pieter Cohen, MD, an internist at Cambridge Health Alliance and instructor at Harvard Medical School in Cambridge, Mass. The FDA gets involved only after the fact, if the supplement later appears to be causing harm. By that time, the supplement may already have harmed many consumers who used it. “The burden of proof is on the FDA to determine [a supplement] is dangerous and remove it from the market,” Cohen says. Consumer complaints are the primary trigger for investigations. One recent investigation of the dietary weight-loss supplement ephedra resulted in it being banned for sale in the United States.
Example: Protein Shakes poisoning article:
http://fittipdaily.com/poison-in-your-protein-shake-5491/
China, which has repeatedly been caught exporting contaminated products, is a major supplier of raw supplement ingredients. The FDA has yet to inspect a single factory there.

We have identified a dozen supplement ingredients that we think consumers should avoid because of health risks, including cardiovascular, liver, and kidney problems. We found products with those ingredients readily available in store.

Because of inadequate quality control and inspection, supplements contaminated with heavy metals, pesticides, or prescription drugs have been sold to unsuspecting consumers. And FDA rules covering manufacturing quality don’t apply to the companies that supply herbs, vitamins, and other raw ingredients.
Beginning in February 2008, he experienced one symptom after another: diarrhea, joint pain, hair loss, lung problems, and fingernails and toenails that fell off.
http://www.fda.gov/ForConsumers/ConsumerUpdates/ucm228052.htm

Sources:
Everyday Health, Consumer Reports, Slate.com, CNN Health/herbal-supplements, FDA.gov for consumers protect yourself health fraud - Seeya

4)   No, that is completely inaccurate, either you heard wrong or the source is untrustworthy. . Generally, it would state the directions regarding the method for taking the mult vitamins . Most of the labels say that your supposed to swallow one capsule per say or chew it for the chewable You may or may not know this already, but you can determine whether the vitamin has absorbed based on the color of your urine which would be almost like an orange color upon taking it the proper way. Good Luck and disregard whoever told you that. - Jason W

5)   It's always better to divide your vitamin doses to twice a day. That way there is more even coverage in the blood stream over a 24 hour day. Liquid vitamins are best as they are more easily absorbed than a hard tablet. - Marc

6)   SEEYA has GOT to be working for "The Big Pharma" Listen to someone with credentials like Dr Oz. Oh but Seeya knows better ,That's right! I almost forgot! What a brainwashed case. WOW! - Know the Cause


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